From: zuzu22@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitty Toilet Training Date: 2000/05/01 Message-ID: <19267-390DDB0B-28@storefull-282.iap.bryant.webtv.net>#1/1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit References: <20000501111412.26653.00000570@ng-cf1.aol.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRBH13F9J0LXFzgAAaRPN2IQw8tRAIUBqwzECd1AImgZ94M947q6FK9xgU= Organization: WebTV Subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Content-Disposition: Inline Regarding toilet training a cat, I have a real problem with this and don't think cats should be made or expected to use a toilet for several reasons. First, it is absolutely an unnatural thing, and by expecting and forcing cats to eliminate in a "human" way, they are unable to do instinctual things such as dig and bury their urine or feces. It isn't enough that people attempt to modify their cats so they fit in with what that person might deem as acceptable, (declawing is one example), but expecting cats to do things "the human way" is, in my book, going too far. Why can't people just let cats be cats? What's the big deal about cleaning litterboxes? That's part of the deal you make when you get a cat, and everyone knows it. It is not time consuming, and is much fairer. I have yet to see a cat voluntarily, without provocation or training, run to use a toilet. Yet, when I scoop boxes, or place a litterbox down with fresh litter in it, the race is on to see who can get in there and pee first. Toilet seats are slippery, and there is always a chance of a cat slipping and falling, possibly injuring themselves in the process. This could also be an experience that will frighten them enough that they refuse to use the toilet again. Toilets also require that the cat jump up, and while this is easy for younger cats, an older or arthritic cat can find it difficult or painful to jump up, and it's not fair to the cat to expect them to do this. It also makes it impossible to see urine output, which is important in monitoring the cat's health. Feces can't be checked accurately if there is a possible problem, as the water they end up in could very well change the consistency. A cat that has a urinary tract infection may not feel comfortable trying to balance on the toilet seat when it is already miserable from painful urination or an inflamed bladder, and will be likely to seek out other spots. Another problem is that many cats have a location preference, and a toilet can't be moved. While a litterbox in the bathroom may work for some, in many households there are litterboxes placed in other locations as well. Take that away, and this in and of itself can be a setup for innappropiate elimination by cats who prefer another location, especially in a multi-cat household. Toilet training a cat does NO favors for the cat, and is done strictly as a convenience for the owner. I would never think of making my cats do such a thing, and will happily continue to scoop and clean litterboxes. That's the deal I made. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=244574&Auth=false